Why such hatred of the medical community?

In a message dated 4/21/2006 1:02:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Kelly writes:

Hi, I sent an E-Mail to the group but wanted you to see it.  It hasn't
been the best of weeks but my questions still stand.  I wonder if you 
or some of the other members are as frightened as I am.  I know you
will say enlightened, but I truly wonder if you have contemplated what
might happen.  Death is surely not a given as any study will show, but
to know all of your options is probably not a bad thing and I cannot
quite understand "why such the hate" for the medical community when
some are so clearly trying to help people.  I dont know if they will
allow you to see my message or not.   Good Evening,   Kelly 

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Kelly,

 

Why such hatred of the medical community?  They are a bunch of overpaid, over-rated, bumbling idiots and clowns, who will lie to your face and then shrug their shoulders and grin when you catch them. They are arrogant bastards who won't respond to challenges to their inept theories, but are quick with a venomous voodoo like, "You don't really believe the virus doesn't cause AIDS?" 

 

Dr. Benjamin Rush, MD, personal physician to George Washington, and the only MD to sign the Declaration of Independence, warned us back then that if medical freedom weren't written into the Constitution, that medicine would organize itself into an underground dictatorship that would eventually bring about the Bastille of medical science.  He was right on the first part, I hope time proves him totally correct and we see the public rise up against the black magicians and take back their power.

These people took an oath to above all do no harm, but they are a major cause of death in this country, killing about 1000 people a day! 

 

It really isn't science when you look at it with scientific scrutiny. It's a religion. We've all been programmed since birth to turn over the natural health that is our birthright to the trust of these merchants of death and disease.Health insurance is not a birthright, and it is really an oxymoron, because it does not insure your health. It pretty well assures that you will go out in grand medical style as you surrender your life to the whims of medical deities. Think how much money you would have now if all the money that has gone for your medical insurance went into your bank account instead.  Read Dr. Robert Mendelson, MD: "Confessions of a Medical Heretic"

 

"Natural Cures They Don't Want You to Know About" is a best seller and does a great job of deconstructing the awe of medicine. I don't recommend the book, however, because he's selling all kinds of crazy cures that will just confuse most people.  To his credit though he does hit upon a couple of the 32 things needed for health though.

 

Ed

letter from Argentina

Hi Ed,

 

I am Juan, from Argentina. If you are in any of the yahoogroups (aidscred or aidssoc), then we "met" as I have sent several emails.

 

I´ll tell you briefly. I was given my pos result 3 ys ago. A couple of months later I knew about the dissidence. That was great. You can imagine.

After that I had bits and bobs of illness, but nothing too bad. In 2004 my health started to come down until in dec 04 I had to spend 9 days in a clinic for "PCP" (never knew quite what it was, but I spent +3 months without breathing properly). By march 05, recovered from the lungs but still weak and with toxoplasmosis I had no option other than starting to take ARVs.

I still thought like a dissident, and knew I would quit sooner or later.

 

That came in Jan 06, when I took my last pills, but I´m still not sure if that was for good or if I´ll have to go back to them (I know I shouldn´t).

My problem is that I did fantastic with them, and my negligible 2ry effects were feet problems (swells and night cramps).

 

One of my doubts, especially when I talk to other people on meds, is how is it that so many people are doing ok (ish) after even as much as 10 years on the meds. I guess this is because I want to make sure that leaving the ARVs is the right decision. I´ve done great with them, recovered from a really bad spell very quickly (a matter of months), and before starting I was in a sorry state, and I saw myself as the perfect example of an AIDS patient, as I had every sign (itches, night sweats, the illnesses, ETC, ETC).

 

And, just how can it be that this is such a GIGANTIC matrix.

HOw can it be that EVERYONE is wrong. And Galileo or Goebles are not good examples, because this is 2006.

 

But then again, most of the times I start reading a decent dissident site I am reassured.

Another thing that bothers me is that there is too little new stuff, and what there is is just more blab on the old fact (that Rebecca who wrote "why I quit aids", for example).

 

Well, your blog I just came accross, I can´t remember how, but it looked cool so I decided to write. I also found myself identified in a way, because you mention "working" and saving lives in chat rooms, giving all the people the needed information. I wanted to do something like that, creating an "aidsbollocks" profile in some of the profile and chat pages, with a bit of a summary and links.

 

I guess I´m just looking for more views. I´ll sign in to get news from your blog.

 

Thanks for any comments, Juan

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Juan,

After you learned about the dissidents, how many of the better dissident books did you read? VirusMyth AIDS WebSite - Book Section  I generally recommend that people read at least one book by Dr. Peter Duesberg and one by someone else. (The British authors are my favorites.)  My favorite Duesberg book was, "Why We'll Never Win the War on AIDS," co-authored with Bryan Ellison. That book was banned in the US, but you might find copies in Argentina. But before you read any book critical of the AIDS industry, I strongly suggest Dr. Robert Mendelson, MD: "Confessions of a Medical Heretic" so that you might understand how "everyone can be wrong."  It's an old book, but it just keeps getting better (and cheaper) with every read.  BTW, not everyone is wrong.  Have you looked at the credentials of some of the outspoken dissidents?  HIV & AIDS - VirusMyth AIDS WebSite - The Group  If you want to understand how all the experts can be wrong, follow the money trail.  AIDS has cost the US nearly $200 billion so far.

 

Your dilemma is very common, so Ihope you don't mind my sharing this with my yahoo group, Yahoo! Groups : HIV_Does_Not_Cause_AIDS and my blog. Diary of an AIDS Dissident. You are still in the zone of fear and confusion. The antidote is education.  When you understand the string of lies that is the medical construct of AIDS, the choices become crystal clear.  When you see how you've been misled and endangered by this "doctor" you've given over your power to, you should get angry -- very angry. 

 

Not knowing your age or prior health history, I'm really not in a position to know what caused your health problems, although I would imagine you were exposed to toxoplasmosis in the hospital. I just went through the most horrible flu/cold, whatever-you-want-to-call-it, I've had in over 25 years. For all I know, had I taken it to a doctor, they might call it pneumonia, and if they knew I was "hiv+," they'd search and search until they found the ubiquitous entity known as pneumocystic carinii and blame that for my illness.  But even if I were to accept medical treatment for the pneumonia (which I doubt I would), knowing what I do about the AIDS theory, I would NEVER take drugs based on fighting HIV. The fact that you felt you had no other option is evidence that you never did the homework necessary to educate yourself out of the AIDS zone.

 

I don't know what your problem is with "too little new stuff," when you haven't touched the surface on the old stuff. The strange thing about truth is that it doesn't go out of date.  In any case, you can usually find the newest information at HEAL: Alternative health and aids information and participate in the latest discussions at AIDS Myth Exposed.

 

When I have health questions I turn to a woman called Anna-Inez, a former radiology nurse who rejected modern medicine for the study of Life Science.  Under her guidance, people have restored their bodies to health from just about every condition that doctors call "incurable," including AIDS, MS, cancer and paralysis.  Her e-mail address is Hygeia16@hotmail.com. 

 

Good luck to you.

 

[NOTE: added August 2006]  "Serious Adverse Events," by Celia Farber is a MUST READ!

continuation of the 4/16 post

I'm not sure if this is the same person, but I guess she missed the link.

In a message dated 4/16/2006 3:36:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
just2_2lucky@yahoo.com writes:

I am so confused and your negativity is dis heartening.  I am 27
years old, been married since 2003, and I have 5 kids.  I have only
done 2 years of college and want to do more.  I found oun a couple
weeks ago I am H.I.V. positive.  I do not even know my viral load or
cd4 count.  I need information and people I can trust. Please help
and tell me the references for your information.
Sincerely,
Lucky 
> 

Dear Lucky,

I totally agree with you.  You are confused, and it's understandable.  You've been lied to by the church that you trusted your entire life to and probably your children's.  (If you plan on having more children, please check out 101 Reasons Not to Have Your Baby in a Hospital. )
 
Any negativity was against the industry that is victimizing your family. Unless you're a doctor, or heavily invested in medicine, there is nothing disheartening. The good news is YOU DON'T HAVE A DISEASE!  Do you get it?
 
If you're 27 and have 5 kids why the x%#&*!! are you taking the so-called "HIV test?"  Just the fact that you've had pregnancies recently can make you test false positive.  You would have to be confused to waste your blood, time or somebody's money on such a test. 
 
You're lucky to have found us this early in the game -- and it is a game. Hopefully you will never know your "viral load" or CD4 count.
 
You want references? These are some of the thousands who have stood up to sign their names to the growing list of intelligent and respected scientists, journalists, educators and others who have been calling for a public forum for this issue:  HIV & AIDS - VirusMyth AIDS WebSite - The Group
 
Reading the excerpts and reviews of these books will give you a good overview of what many now refer to as the AIDS Scam.  VirusMyth AIDS WebSite - Book Section   You can navigate through and fromthat website for as many hours, days or weeks that it takes until you understand that were lucky to find us when you did. You should be far from disheartened.  If you need to understand how you've been mind-fucked, this site might help: http://healaids.com
 
If you run out of reading material, just let me know.
 
When you've done your homework you might want to confront your doctor with why he put you at such risk by giving you a test whose validity is zilch that allows you to be labeled for life? Then again, if you're prone to violence when you realize your person has been so totally violated, you might not.
 
I welcome your thoughts pro and con. 
 
Ed
 

Letter from a reader and responses

 

I received the following from a new member, but she says "you all," in the subject line so I'm assuming she wants me to share this with the group, which, btw, has been steadily growing lately.  Her e-mail is reprinted here, with my reply below.  Please feel free to share.

 

Ed

 

 

In a message dated 4/13/2006 12:26:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, a new member@yahoo.com writes:

I tested positive two years ago.  I was given this nastiness from a
long term hetrosexual partner whom I now believe knew he was
infected. This being devestating news and what I thought would
surely be "the end" I quickly found an Oncologist who watched and
monitered me for over a year before starting me on meds, my viral
load had climbed from 15,000 to over 100,000 and my C-4 count had
dropped to below 500.  My current meds are Viread and Truvada taken
daily.  My viral load has dropped to undectectable levels and my C-4
count is up to 1,200 plus.  My doctor told me that it is not
uncommon to NOT pass the infection to my husband (I got married), he
has tested negative so far but we do not always use a condom.  Am I
risking his life by doing this?  I am also curious as to why your
web site states the Doctors are all so wrong, I had started to lose
weight, night sweats, generally not feelng well and have really felt
better after the start of meds.  I did cut out Hard alcohol and try
to exercise regularly although I have experienced changes in my
muscle tone in my stomach.  Does anyone know how to get around this
unpleasant side effect?  I am 43 years old and wonder how many
people are out there like me who rely on the advice given to us by
our Doctors but really dont know the long term effects that might
happen down the road.  Am I at risk to possibly die within 10 years
after the onsaught of starting medications or will I live to be 80? 
The literature and volume of conflicting data is mind boggling and I
continue to be very scared as I try to live my life and raise my
children before DYING YOUNG.  Any comments or suggestions?  Thanks
and have a happy Holiday.

REPLY:

 

I have comments and a suggestion that you educate yourself.  I'm not sure if you understand what this group is about, but I hope you learn before it is too late.

 

You have to understand that you have been totally mind-fucked and terribly mislead by the people you trust -- medical doctors, and your friends and family who believe in them too.  I would say, "Forgive them for they know not what they do," except that in the position they are in, they have an obligation to know before they experiment on you, and to "above all, do no harm."

 

The things you are monitoring are all bullshit.  Most medical testing is questionable. The results can be misleading and misinterpreted. If you doctor went to medical school, he should know that t-cells are not a marker for immune health. They are a body-initiated response to toxicity. If he didn't understand that from his education and he is an "AIDS" doctor, he should have realized it after reading the Concorde Study, one of the largest and longest AIDS studies ever done which clearly concluded that "T-cells are not a valid surrogate marker for health or disease progression in AIDS," or other major studies which reached the same conclusion.

 

And the "HIV" test is a joke. If your doctor kept up to date on the science, he would know that the tests were shown to be useless over a decade ago and that he shouldn't be having any of his patients tested or treated based on such (mis)diagnosis.

 

I beg you to educate yourself and your husband before it is too late for you.  Any doctor who would recklessly endanger the health of his patients with open-ended chemotherapy treatments based on a bunch of invalid surrogate markers is a dangerous person to even be near, much less trust your health and your life to.  Unfortunately, your doctor is typical, and we live in a country where majority-rule (politics) and corporate profit have overtaken science. Medicine is a religion that most of the country (and maybe the world) believe in. The problem isn't that 40 million Americans are without "health insurance."  The real problem is that hundreds of millions have or want it.

 

The "HIV/AIDS" experts have wasted over $100 billion, 2 decades of research, and ruined millions of lives in their futile search for a cure.  Drugs don't cure disease.  Maybe that's why so many people are wearing stupid bracelets, and raising money for the various war-on-disease companies. If you're waiting for doctors to end AIDS, you'll die waiting.

 

If you need a good "dissident" web site to get you started, try www.healaids.com.

 

 

E-mail from Greenbarebear and Reply

Since I haven't been doing too much blogging lately, thought I'd share the follow up to Greenbarebear, who wrote:

Well, for your information, I am one those people who contracted the virus in the 80's and have been on meds and done everything my doctor has said and I am still going strong.  You didn't answer my question about if you were a doctor or not and if you were, are you willing to bet your malpractice insurance on it?  For you to prey on people before they have all the information they need to make an informed decision is very irresponsible of you and your friends.  I know of a lot of people who have contracted the virus in the 80's and on meds and are still going strong thanks to their doctors support.  It is every individual's right to receive the best care and advice before deciding what to do about the treatment they decide on.  You and your friend's advice prey on these unsuspecting people and drive them away from potentially life saving medicine's. 

    I would hate to have to live with your guilty conscience.

 

           Frank G

 

Believe me, Frank, I have no problem with my conscience. A lot of very wonderful people love me and think of me as their angel.  If I WEREN'T sharing this information I would have a problem with my conscience.

 

 If what you say is true, you are very lucky, and a rare case.  How many patients has your doctor buried since the 80's? 

 

If I were a doctor, Frank, I would not admit it.  I would hang my head in shame and probably kill myself.  Despite their oath to "above all, do no harm," they are the #1 cause of disease and death in the U.S.  They admit to being #3 (JAMA, August 2004), but their critics say otherwise.  I suppose we could compromise and say they are the #2 cause of death.  Whether #1, #2, or #3, they are, above all, doing a lot of harm.

 

Besides destroying our health, they are destroying us financially.  Medical expenses are the #1 cause of personal bankruptcies.  Andmedical care is the #1 expense of the federal government -- unless Bush has managed to make war the new #1.  And health insurance has become the driving force behind the recent municipal transit workers' strikes that have crippled major cities.  Medical care is driving up the price of everything else.

 

You are alive despite the meds.  Possibly for a number of factors.  First off, you weigh 200 lb.  Unlike many prescription drugs, HIV med dosages are not based on body weight.  A 98 lb. cha-cha queen would be given the same dosage as you or a Magic Johnson.  I don't know your lifestyle, but most of the people who've survived as long on the medications usually work out or do something vigorous on a daily basis. Another factor is your faith. 

 

So you say you know a lot of people who believe they contracted the virus in 80's and are "going strong" -- whatever that means.  Most times people tell me that, they are referring to numbers that represent invalid surrogate markers, but in reality they suffer all kinds of health problems.  How many people is a lot?  According to the government's own figures there are at least a couple of hundred thousand who've been poz since 1984, but still don't it. Obviously they're still going strong with NO medical intervention and no drama.

 

I'm not preying on anyone and I do want people to have ALL the information so that they can informed choices and not stupid, uninformed and misinformed choices, as you have.

That's what blogs are for.

I received the following e-mail from HngVersatile@aol.com.  When I tried to reply, I discovered, like many close-minded individuals, he had my e-mail blocked.  So I shall post my reply here.  That's what blogs are for. 

In a message dated 2/1/2006 1:54:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, HngVersatile writes:

You would think after some of the most prominent AIDS dissidents died of the very thing they said did not exist that people like you would be embarrassed to keep spouting the same line of crap. Go ask David Pasquarelli if he feels better knowing that his unwillingness to consider HIV meds even as he was dying got him absolutely no where but in a grave.

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My reply:
 

Almost all of the dissidents I've known, for the past two decades are still here.  The most prominent ones I knew who died, died of suicide.  Most of the guys I've known going to doctors to treat their virus died, are dying, or look like hell.   There is a wide diversity amongst dissidents and amongst everyone else.  Some people call themselves dissidents because they don't believe in the medical treatment, but some are still confused on the virus issue.  He and his friends came to a HEAL meeting here in NY once, but I never had anything to do with David Pasquarelli. 
 
I may have been spouting the same line for a long time, but that's the way truth is.  I am certainly not embarrassed for anything I've ever said on this issue.  And it's not crap.  Crap is the nonsense you believe.  There is no science to support the HIV theory of AIDS and those who originally started it have retracted somewhat on the issue.  There is no science to t-cell counting and viral load, nor any valid controlled studies that show that the meds help anyone. 
 
With all the time, technology, money and resources put into HIV/AIDS research to date, and they haven't found a cure, perhaps the cure is not a drug.  What makes you so sure it is? 
 
If you're really concerned about how David Pasquarelli feels, ask him yourself.  You'll be seeing him a lot before I will.  But keep on laughing.  Just remember, he who lasts laughs last.  Personally, I don't think it's that funny.  I've been having these same arguments on line for decades, and I keep winning, but by default.  Hard to collect bets from dead people.
 

Why do I do this?

For several years now I've been hanging out in m4m aol chatrooms to reach gay men who are newly diagnosed or about to get tested.  In the 5 years that I had an aol website up, I received over 100,000 hits and helped save hundreds of lives, until AOL deleted my site.  I get a lot of static from it, especially in the HIV chatrooms.  Here is an IM that I received recently and my reply:

 AnitaShlg [1:15 AM]:  why do you insist on causing trouble when meds are keeping so many of us alive?   Dear Anita,   HIV meds have never kept anyone alive.  They are killing people slower than they used to because they are less toxic then earlier formulations and they are being given to people who aren't sick at the start.  I had over 200 friends who believed as you do.  They are all dead and buried or cremated now.   Everyone who followed my advice did well.  A couple were scared back to the doctors by well-meaning, but scared, people like you.  They are dead now too.   In all these years, can you tell me why there is not one properly controlled study to show that these drugs help anybody (except the people who market them?)  They compare one drug to another or different combinations of drugs.  Never do they have a branch of the study that includes people like me and the hundreds of thousands who have been "HIV-positive" for at least 20 years but have never sought treatment for their "condition."   There is no reason to even believe that these drugs are beneficial.  They are, for the most part, chemotherapy drugs that kill cells and are highly immunosuppressive.  Why would want to take immunosuppressive treatments when they are already thought to be immunosuppressed?   They are all based on the failed "HIV theory" of AIDS.  They destroy the bone marrow, the thymus, the liver and a lot of other vital parts of the body.  They in no way create health, although initially, because of their high toxicity, they kill off all sorts of parasitic and fungal infections and may temporarily alleviate some symptoms.  Their effectiveness is measured by invalid surrogate markers.    My information may cause trouble for people who are insecure in their beliefs, but it saves lives of intelligent people who want to be able to make truly informed decisions.  To my way of thinking people who are against the free flow of information, people who want to censor what others may see, are causing all the trouble.   E